{"id":62459,"date":"2018-10-25T11:00:47","date_gmt":"2018-10-25T15:00:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dcmusicreview.com\/staging\/?p=62459"},"modified":"2018-11-16T15:19:34","modified_gmt":"2018-11-16T20:19:34","slug":"dr-fink-talks-the-evolution-of-the-revolution","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dcmusicreview.com\/staging\/dr-fink-talks-the-evolution-of-the-revolution\/","title":{"rendered":"Dr. Fink Talks The Evolution of The Revolution"},"content":{"rendered":"

Karin McLaughlin: So first of all, I’d like to say I’m really honored to be able to do this interview and I’m really excited to get to talk to you.  \u200bLet’s do an intro for people who may not know who you are, if you can \u200bjust give us your musical bio\u200b.  I know, that’s kind of hard but just in a nutshell, doesn’t have to be \u200btoo specific, we’ll get into some specifics in a bit.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\"Prince<\/span>A Very Young Set of The Revolution members backing Prince<\/p>\n

Matthew Fink aka ‘Doctor Fink”: <\/strong> Okay, well I started playing music at a very young age, and studying the keyboards when I was about six. \u200bThe first band I was ever in was put together when I was 12 years old and we start playing junior high shows and other things\u200b like that all through my high school years, and then I was with a couple bands before Prince<\/strong>.   Prince brought me on board in late 78, and I worked with him for 12 years.   After that, I got into producing for a local company here in Minneapolis, and became a staff producer. I had a pretty good stint with that\u200b and then I moved on to video game music in the late 90s and doing occasional documentary film music, you know, jingles\u200b and commercials, so to speak. \u200b  I’m still to this day, very active, running my studio out of my home, producing artists and doing session work for people all over the planet. \u200b Now the last couple years, I’ve been working for a while with a cool company that started a new streaming music service as well.  <\/p>\n

\"Prince<\/span><\/p>\n

A Very Young Set of The Revolution members backing Prince<\/p>\n

KM: So you’ve kind of rode the wave of music since an early an early lad.  Of course, one of the first questions I’m going to ask is if doctor means you actually have a degree or a if it’s just a nickname.  If it’s a nickname \u200bwe’ve got to know how you earned that.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u200bMF: <\/strong>It’s a nickname.  It’s just something that came up early on, he (Prince) was looking for a \u200bstage character.<\/p>\n

KM: We all know, Prince \u200band the Revolution was huge, and still is, I mean, I know people \u200byounger, that are still just discovering all that music and that whole musical catalog.  You were with the band and Prince during the big, huge\u200b days of Purple Rain and, \u200blike you said, you know, the 70s and 80s  – how did you feel when all of this was going on\u200b?  Were you guys aware of how big this was really going to be when you all \u200bgot together in the very beginning?<\/strong><\/p>\n

MF<\/strong>: Well, you really never know in the beginning where it’s going to lead, although your hopes and dreams are there to bring it to a successful place. \u200b It’s just all about working as hard as you can and\u200b envisioning that dream and hoping that you can get there and we did, you know, we just worked really hard\u200b.  Prince, without\u200b him, of course, \u200bwho knows what would have happened with any of us, but his work ethic and his prolific songwriting is really credited for bringing it to fruition and we were fortunate to be along with \u200bhim for the ride and have a chance and the opportunity to to help them achieve that goal.<\/p>\n

KM: The band, the albums, the music, have so much recognition and are hailed as being some of the best music of generations, not just one generation, but severa\u200bl.  Loking back on it, how impactful \u200bis it \u200bto be able to say that you got up on stage and \u200bparticipated in this, without using it as a pun, but revolutionary music?  \u200bKnowing \u200bwhat you know now,  how does that, if at all, change what you feel as a musician that this all has occurred and you were part of it versus your perception of it at the time?\u200b Does \u200bit give you a different sense of, not accomplishment, but being part of something so \u200bmajor – you’ve got all \u200bthese notches on your belt  – at the time that \u200byou were doing it, did you feel at all the same or have any idea?  <\/strong><\/p>\n

\"Prince<\/span><\/p>\n

Prince & The Revolution (Photo Credit: Larry Williams)<\/p>\n

\"Prince<\/span><\/p>\n

Prince & The Revolution (Photo Credit: Larry Williams)<\/p>\n

MF:<\/strong> \u200b You don’t feel it as much.  You don’t realize how much you\u2019re impacting the public and the fans.  Obviously, when you’re on tour and you’re playing, the audience is highly appreciative and you get that feedback from them.   All these years later getting back into it again with the group you tend to forget over time just how influential it really was and then it just brings it all back and reminds you that the legacy has been there all along and people really haven’t forgotten about him or the group or pretty much anybody affiliated that has worked with him over the years. It’s really astounding to me just how wide ranging \u200bhis appeal to the public across the planet was.  It’s just really incredible. <\/p>\n

KM: \u200bHow much fun was it being a part of not only, obviously, a great band, but something that was so fun\u200b?  You had this character that you \u200bgot to play on stage – how does that \u200bdiffer from anything else you’ve done \u200bmusically?  \u200bHow did that change \u200bthe persona of not only yourself as a musician, but as a person when you were on stage, and did it make it more of an act? \u200b<\/strong><\/p>\n

MF<\/strong>: \u200bWell\u200b I was trained growing up and did a lot of theater.  I came from a\u200b very theatrical background -my parents both have degrees in theater from the University of Minnesota and they were highly active in theater in the Twin Cities here in Minneapolis St. Paul and they did a lot of work in theater. My father directed plays and acted in them, my mother did the same.  She had her own voice over talent agency\u200b where she had a whole stable of actors that she booked for voiceover work for commercials and TV spots, and things like that.   I was exposed to that my whole life.   One of my first memories\u200b was at the age of three and a half, four years old, seeing my parents do a play together. \u200bThey both starred in a play, a local community theater play.   That whole part of the upbringing influenced me a lot and then, of course, they brought music to me in the form of \u200bpiano lessons and things like that. \u200b I was growing up, not only studying music, but I was also a\u200bcting myself because they introduced it to me and gave me the opportunity to do that.  So portraying Dr. Fink or becoming Dr. Fink, it was kind of second nature to me to have this\u200b persona.   It all came about because Prince wanted me to be the quirky character in the band.  He even asked me, he said, “I want you to come up with something that’s different.”   Now originally, I had a guy where I was dressed in black and white striped jail outfit.  When we first debuted on American Bandstand back in ’79 that’s what I was wearing on stage and then when we went on tour later that y\u200bear with Rick James, he was wearing a jail s\u200buit during one of the songs called \u200b”Bustin Out of L Seven” and Prince said, “You know what? The headliner Rick is wearing \u200ba jail suit and \u200bso you’re gonna have to change your look.”   I said, “Ohhhhh”, \u200b this was about three shows into the tour.  I said, “Okay, you have any ideas?”  He goes, “No.” (laughs)<\/p>\n

KM:  I find it hard to believe that \u200bdidn’t have any ideas or that he couldn’t come up with something else.  (laughs)<\/strong><\/p>\n

MF<\/strong>: \u200b It was the kind of thing where he just had an epiphany about it and he\u200b came to me before the show \u200bthat day and he wanted me to change horses and I just said, okay.  He asked, “What were \u200b your alternative ideas?” and I said, “Well, one of them was a guy being a surgeon in a surgeon’s \u200boutfit,” and he goes, “That’s really different, I think that we’re gonna try that!”  So he has our wardrobe person who was on the road with us \u200brun out to a uniform store in Chicago and they brought me back all of the surgeons\u200b accessories and scrub suits and everything and that’s how I became a doctor right there on the spot.<\/p>\n

KM: How was \u200bit playing with Prince – what impact did he have on your life as far as musically and personally?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\"The<\/span><\/p>\n

Dr. Fink With The Revolution<\/p>\n

MF:<\/strong>  Well, the main thing was the dedication and discipline that went into creating his whole \u200bthing. He was the type of person whose work ethic was 110%, it wasn’t like anything I’d ever encountered before, any band I’ve been in or any band leader of people I’ve worked with up till that point.  His drive and commitment and creativity was unmatched on anything and that’s how he behaved throughout his whole career.  He was just a 24-7 creating machine\u200b and he couldn’t turn the spigot off, it just flowed freely,\u200b the ideas were just constant, he couldn’t turn it off.   The years I knew him, \u200bhe was lucky if he was sleeping four\u200b or five hours a night and the rest of the time was spent eating, \u200bbreathing and drinking music.  It was really a sight to \u200bbehold throughout that whole time.  I felt like I had to do my best to try to keep up with him even though I failed at it at times.  \u200bHe obviously kept me in place there for quite a while. I was there for 12 years but, you know, it just really was really wild to be on that ride and watch him\u200b bring this genius on the world, it was really something else\u200b – really, really unique, a one in a billion type \u200bperson that comes into the world that does that.<\/p>\n

\"The<\/span><\/p>\n

Dr. Fink With The Revolution<\/p>\n

KM:\u200b Yeah, I’m definitely glad that I was around, growing up while the music was coming out new, I think everybody obviously is.  You kind of mentioned, it’s amazing to see \u200bhow impactful the music still is.  Now that you guys are getting geared up again, and\u200b The Revolution is \u200bgetting out and doing more shows again, \u200bwhat’s different and what’s the same about the life, the camaraderie and, basically everything?  What’s something that’s never changed and you just picked up right where you left off and then what’s kind of different, if anything? <\/strong><\/p>\n

MF:<\/strong> Well, obviously the hardest thing is to not have him there and the have that leadership role, you know?  Right now, it has more of a democratic feel to it \u200bwhereas in the past, he would call the shots, he wouldn’t ask for your opinion. \u200b For the most part, it was just ‘this is what we’re doing, here are the songs, you’re gonna be in the studio tomorrow, and you’re going to do this and do that’ and ‘Ohh, wait a minute!  Here’s five songs I just wrote last week that I did all by myself in the studio and now it’s going on the next album, so here’s the cassette, go ahead and learn it by ear.’   Yeah, so that’s what that was (laughs).  You just took it as a day by day because you just never kn\u200bew what he was going to do.  He would just show up at rehearsal and go, ‘I got a new song I wanna try out with the band, here we go, I’ll show you the parts.’<\/p>\n

KM: The blessing and the curse of the musical genius, I guess. <\/strong><\/p>\n

MF:<\/strong> Yeah, exactly.  So you just have to roll with it and keep up with \u200bhim as best you could because he was so prolific that he left us a legacy of material in his so called vault\u200b that’s unparalleled, I think,\u200b for just about anybody,  except maybe Bob Dylan<\/strong>. \u200bWhat I’ve read \u200babout Bob Dylan is that he was extremely prolific and had a lot of unreleased material.  I don’t know how that extends to other artists out there. You know, I’m sure we’re going to hear some things from Bowie<\/strong>. \u200bprobably more from Led Zeppelin<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

KM:  Yeah, Tom Petty, in fact, is coming out with a new album.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\"The<\/span><\/p>\n

MF:<\/strong>  Yeah, yeah, Tom Petty.<\/strong> I mean, all those kinds of great artists always had unreleased material sitting on the shelf.  Prince though, I don’t know, he may have enough material for the next 30 years or more beyond to release an album every year, I’m not really sure, I just keep hearing stories about what’s in\u200b the vault.  \u200bWhen I first \u200bworked\u200b with him once Paisley Park \u200bhad been established, I was able to go in the\u200b vault at times and look inside \u200bto see what’s in there.  Of course it had all of his past \u200balbums stored in there, all the master \u200brecordings up to that point and unreleased material as well.  They’re actually releasing today an album, you may have heard about:  Prince: Piano and A Microphone 1983<\/em>  and it’s just him on the piano singing in the studio\u200b directly to a cassette tape.  When they went in the vault, to look at material, the people curating that found that particular tape chose \u200bit to be one of the first pieces of work to be released and I’ve heard pieces from that – it’s absolutely astounding.  A lot of it is spontaneous as it’s being recorded. It’s not necessarily rehearsed, \u200bhe may have written skeletal versions of some of these songs and then he just \u200bwent for and it’s highly unrehearsed, but it’s actually sounding as if it is, so that just gives you an idea of his genius of \u200bhow he was so spontaneous and sounded as if he’d been working on it for a long time. I highly recommend people get that one!   In fact, one of the songs that I was able to hear just the other night –  I went and saw the movie The Black Klansmen which is Spike Lee’s latest film and he used one of the songs from that album for the end credits – a song called “Mary, Don’t You Weap” and it is just blows you away, I mean I was really blown away.  In fact, I don’t usually sit through all the credits, but I sat there so I could hear the song. \u200b I mean, he is just such an amazing performer, the vocal work on that song\u200b, playing on it, just amazing.<\/p>\n

\"The<\/span><\/p>\n

KM:  He’s one of those people where you think I mean, obviously not everyone got to, but personally, \u200bI thank my lucky stars that I got to see him live once.\u200b  I know people, one guy in particular, that I work with for DC Music Review that saw him several times but just being able\u200b to see it live, it’s just like Tom Petty, you get to see these great musicians one time and it’s so impactful and so amazing and you just think, “What would I have done if he had passed away and I had never seen him live?!”  I would be kicking myself from here to eternity about it.<\/strong><\/p>\n

MF<\/strong>:  Yeah, definitely.  When did you get \u200bto see him?<\/p>\n

KM: I saw him, I think it was 2008 at Madison Square Garden, so it’s pretty recent . I mean, in the scheme of things, obviously, but a group of my girlfriends from college and I did a trip in December, I think it was like December 18th, so it was right around Christmas time when New York is almost magical and we all went to Madison Square Garden.  ?uestlove was drumming with him and it was just amazing.  \u200b\u200bOk, so if I could, is there a story that\u200b is funny or \u200b\u200bthat really resonates about you and \u200bPrince, or being on tour or kind of anything that had to do with that period of time? \u200b \u200b I mean, I’m sure there’s a million<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

\"The<\/span><\/p>\n

MF:<\/strong>  Yeah,\u200b there’s definitely a lot I’ll say that.   I believe it was the end of the 1999 tour, \u200band we were in Cincinnati and we decided that the band at the time we’re gonna have a food fight after the show, but it actually started by accident.  It was like the night before Cincinnati, a couple members of The Time<\/strong> came into our dressing room and started \u200bto joke around with us and then I think our drummer threw a piece of fruit at one of the guys, then next thing you know, they went and got some fruit and came back and decided to toss some fruit at us and it escalated from there and became \u200bwhat’s known as the famous ‘\u200bPrince and The Time Food Fight’ \u200band it’s been recounted several times\u200b.<\/p>\n

\"The<\/span><\/p>\n

KM: I was just gonna say there’s got to be some skits on like a Dave Chappelle show or something about that. (laughs)<\/strong><\/p>\n

MF:<\/strong> That would have been a good one!  So it went on in the dressing rooms a little bit that night and then they went to our hotel rooms, The Time \u200bmembers, and they decided they were going to put mustard and stuff on \u200bthe door knobs of our doors, things like that so that when we got there, there’d be a big mess.  Well, the next night in Cincinnati, Prince ordered in \u200babout 50 or 6o cream pies and they were brought back stage.\u200b  Then after the show we had it out with everybody and had a big cream pie fight like in an old silent film, so it was it was really fun. (laughs).<\/p>\n

KM: That’s great. So I don’t want to take up a ton of your time, but there is one question that I kind of like to ask everybody I get to interview and you really have probably crossed off a ton of things but I like to ask \u200bwhat, if anything, is on the music bucket list? I mean, playing with Prince for all these years, getting a Gramm\u200by, being on the album, Purple Rain<\/em>, that sold what, 18 million copies or something, I’m guessing you’ve checked a lot of these things off, but is there anything left on the musical bucket list that you have as a goal to \u200bcross off anytime soon?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\"The<\/span><\/p>\n

MF<\/strong>:  Yeah, you know, I’ve been working with some new artists lately myself and producing and I’d like to hopefully help some young up-and-coming artists gain some recognition – that’s one goal. The other goal \u200bat this point would \u200bbe to release some unheard Prince and The Revolution material which exists \u200bin the vault.  Hoping that the family will put that out someday and we will \u200bbe involved in curating those songs and possibly helping to remix them so they’ll bring a more contemporary vibe and possibly even release a couple new songs that we collaborate on, possibly with another up-and-coming artists.  So those are the kinds of things we’re just starting to talk about.  We don’t want to do it too soon here, you know,\u200b Prince obviously\u200b has got so much unreleased material – we\u200b don’t want to step on any \u200btoes.  Let that come out first and hopefully\u200b \u200ba couple years down the road\u200b some \u200bof the material that we can do together. <\/p>\n

\"The<\/span><\/p>\n

KM:  I think everyone would appreciate that!  How is it being on the other side of it working with the production side and working with the new artists as opposed to being \u200bon the stage and doing it that way? <\/strong><\/p>\n

MF: <\/strong>Well, I really love it.  I’ve been doing that over the years anyway,\u200b and it gave me the opportunity to stay off the road and raise a family and now my two boys are grown up \u200band out of the house \u200band that has given me a lot of freedom now to to do some other things now that they’re grown up.\u200b  So that’s \u200bwhat I’m doing\u200b.<\/p>\n

KM: Well, I definitely hope to hear some new material and look forward to seeing The Revolution back on tour in the DC area, especially.   I also want to thank you very much for taking the time to talk with us today. <\/strong><\/p>\n

MF:<\/strong> Absolutely, no problem. Thank you. Have a good day.<\/p>\n

See Dr. Fink and The Revolution perform at The Fillmore Silver Spring this Friday, October 26,  2018.<\/p>\n

Performance Details<\/strong><\/p>\n

Performance Details<\/strong><\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n

Performance<\/strong><\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n

Details<\/strong><\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n

Friday, October 26, 2018<\/p>\n

Doors: 7:00 PM<\/strong><\/p>\n

Show: 8:00 PM<\/strong>\u200b<\/p>\n

Fillmore Silver Spring<\/p>\n

www.fillmoresilverspring.com<\/a><\/p>\n

8656 Colesville Road<\/p>\n

Silver Spring, MD 20910<\/p>\n

(Google Maps Link<\/a>)<\/p>\n

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