{"id":88603,"date":"2019-05-09T10:00:53","date_gmt":"2019-05-09T14:00:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dcmusicreview.com\/staging\/?p=88603"},"modified":"2019-05-09T10:54:12","modified_gmt":"2019-05-09T14:54:12","slug":"interview-with-punk-music-lover-pete-bernhard-of-the-devil-makes-three","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dcmusicreview.com\/staging\/interview-with-punk-music-lover-pete-bernhard-of-the-devil-makes-three\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Punk Music Lover Pete Bernhard of The Devil Makes Three"},"content":{"rendered":"

\u200bBack in April, we got to talk with Pete Bernhard about all the fun that a band who never seems to stop touring has coming for 2019.  While some of the events discussed in the article have now already happened, there is still plenty more coming including their show in D.C.  Read on to see why Pete is a fan of the city and some of our music just as much as we are fans of The Devil Makes Three! <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Karin McLaughlin: Okay, \u200bright off the bat – after taking a look at you\u200br upcoming \u200btour schedule, you’re heading overseas and doing a stint with Dropkick Murphys. \u200b I know that you guys have worked with the same producer (Ted Hut) as Dropkick, but I  want to know about The Devil Makes Three and Dropkick Murphys dynamic relationship. <\/strong><\/p>\n

Pete Bernhard<\/strong>: Well, we don’t actually know those guys very well, but like you said, we worked with the same producer on our last album.  Me and Cooper used to go see them, we’re from New England and would go see them in Boston when we were teenagers\u200b.  You’d go see a punk show and there’d be \u200bnine bands playing and a lot of times Dropkick would be one of the last bands playing \u200bso we  grew up \u200blistening to them. \u200b At the time, they were a pretty small band \u200bcompared to what they are now.   That’s  our connection to them and we’ve been wanting to play with him for a while. We just played our first show \u200bon St. Patrick’s Day – well \u200bactually, we did one other one \u200bat Bank of America Stadium a billion years ago, but this \u200bwas one of the many festivals that they do around St. Patrick’s Day and it was really fun. \u200b<\/p>\n

KM:  So that’s a really cool opportunity for you guys then, \u200bto get to play with a band that you  grew up going to see. \u200b I’m assuming obviously, there will be some kind of friendship and relationship built during that time, but that’s pretty awesome.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u200bPB: <\/strong>Yeah, they seem like really nice guys and\u200b we’re really excited \u200btour with \u200bthem in Europe.<\/p>\n

KM: That’s another thing I wanted to touch on is what’s different about touring overseas, as opposed to the U.S. as far as preparation or maybe anything you guys\u200b take with you or just even the crowds and the overall vibe.  How different is overseas as opposed to here?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u200bPB: <\/strong>It’s pretty different actually. The audiences are,\u200b in our experience\u200b really attentive and tend to be a lot quieter. \u200b They don’t get as crazy\u200b, there isn’t a lot of fighting, they’re sort of more subdued and more respectful.  I wouldn’t say that they’re not having a really good time, but it’s a little harder to read. I think we just  become accustomed to people being a little bit nuts and you can tell they’re really having a good time. \u200b I really like the audience over there a lot, it’s great, it’s just different.  \u200bFor the most part, it’s really nice that they’re\u200b listening and attentive\u200b and I think what we’ve all experienced over there has been pretty much totally positive, so we’re stoked to\u200b go over there with \u200bDropkick and play to a completely different audience. We have our own audience over there, but of course, \u200btheirs is much bigger.<\/p>\n

KM:  Are there any comforts of home that you guys make sure to take with you when you travel overseas?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\u200bThe Devil Makes Three (photo credit: Giles Clement)<\/p>\n

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\u200bThe Devil Makes Three (photo credit: Giles Clement)<\/p>\n

PB: <\/strong>\u200bWhen we’re there, we try and\u200b ask for some things that are sort of\u200b like foods and stuff that reminds us of home and \u200bstuff like that.   \u200bAlso, to me, going to- this time we’re going to Ireland and England and Scotland-  it’s not really \u200ba big shock culturally, I don’t know if you’ve ever been over there\u200b but I mean, they’re English speaking and\u200b most of the first people who came here were from there. \u200b People tend to be friendly and the language barrier isn’t there, which is nice.  \u200b This doesn’t really feel like you’re going that\u200b far off the map.   Whereas sometimes if we go to like Spain and Italy\u200b or France, it’s a bit \u200bmore of a shock. \u200bEven Germany and Prague and stuff like that is sort of like\u200b different, you know what I mean?  \u200bGenerally speaking, the best thing is\u200b that we tend to go with our American crew and we’ve all been touring together for so long that it  feels like home in a weird way.<\/p>\n

KM: I was reading some stuff on your website and I think that you guys have probably the most awesome descriptors of the band and the music. Two of them especially are “Reckless Rock and Roll” and “Whiskey \u200bSoaked Ragtime” (laughs).  I was hoping to see if I could get your, not really take on that, but \u200breasons why that fits you guys so well. <\/strong><\/p>\n

PB: <\/strong>I think our whole intention as a band, when we started out, was to try and make the kind of music that we like more fun. \u200bWe were really inspired by folk music and blues and classic rock and roll and it was sort of like the people who \u200bwere playing it, that we knew were sort of doing \u200bit in like a revivalist sort of way.  There was no dancing, no one was\u200b standing up, and we were really into punk music, so we \u200bkind of like, ‘How do we take this music that we love and \u200bmake it \u200bthe show environment that we like?’  I think that’s how those descriptors got started and why they fit the band this because it’s our intention when we started the band  – try and make our live shows fun and really bring the energy that we \u200bfirst saw in punk music and bring it into the  music we were playing. \u200b That was our whole goal.  \u200b \u200b<\/p>\n

KM:  Sounds like a really fun show.  It makes me think of\u200b the 1920s \u200band the speakeasies when it was \u200bthe prohibition era and you have to go in a secret place to drink and dance and have a really good time, but it sounds like a blast. \u200b <\/strong><\/p>\n

Now let’s talk about Chains Are Broken<\/em> as a whole and  just how this album is maybe similar to and different from what you guys have done before? <\/strong><\/p>\n

PB: \u200bI think, with this record, me and Cooper really love like I said, old rock and roll and oldies and shit like that and\u200b with this album, we really \u200blean into that a little harder. \u200b \u200b\u200b We also brought our touring drummer in the studio, which was Ted’s idea, the producer and that was a bit of a departure for us as well. \u200b We’re just sort of messing around\u200b every time we make an album and we try and do something a little bit different to color the album.<\/p>\n

This one we recorded down in Texas, right on the Mexican border near El Paso\u200b at this place called Sonic Ranch<\/strong>, and it was really a cool studio, a residential studio way out in the middle of nowhere. \u200b We went and lived there for like, I don’t know, \u200ba week and a half I think it was and just recorded every day and it was really fun.  We’ve never made an album like that. Usually we\u200b just go to a city and go to a studio, so it was really cool to be \u200bin the middle of nowhere making this album, it was super fun. \u200b  \u200b<\/p>\n

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\u200bThe Devil Makes Three (photo credit: Jay Westcott)<\/p>\n

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\u200bThe Devil Makes Three (photo credit: Jay Westcott)<\/p>\n

KM: Different environment\u200b, totally engulfed in nothing but the music I’m assuming?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u200bPB: <\/strong>Yeah, yeah, we had no choice. It was residential recording so there would be four or five bands because there’s a bunch of different tracking rooms.   \u200bThis one band came and \u200basked us, “Hey\u200b where’s the nearest bar?”  And it’s like, dude, the nearest bar is like an hour and a half\u200b away, there was literally nothing. \u200b It was \u200breally actually good in a way.\u200b<\/p>\n

KM: Speaking on that a bit – I think this is so important, because everybody has or sets a goal\u200b there’s someone I follow on Instagram that’s a local business owner\u200b and he posted something the other day that rings similar to this. \u200b People have these goals or this thing that they want, but they don’t think about all the things that are going to be necessary to make it possible.   You were quoted as saying, “It’s an album about what you have to do to make your dream possible.”\u200b  Seems like you’ve done that, but what was something along the way that was unexpected or unanticipated about that journey?  A sacrifice or \u200bsomething you guys \u200bmight not have realized that was part of the whole process.  You’re still  growing and learning as you continue to have years under your belt and make new albums and do new music and hit new places and tour with new people.  Is there something that really sticks out along that journey maybe that you guys weren’t expecting and now you feel like is really  something you are \u200bstanding on top of the mountain and \u200bgetting to say that you did?  Like a ‘we did it and it wasn’t easy, but we did it.’?<\/strong><\/p>\n

PB: <\/strong>Yeah, I mean, I think the main thing that I \u200breally recognize as being important is being willing to sacrifice.  \u200bThat’s a big theme of the album too, sort of \u200bwhat you \u200bhave got to give up to get what you want, how bad you want it? What are you willing to \u200bgive up?  <\/p>\n

Some people who I grew up with had a similar dream and didn’t make it, either because they had drug problems or they just didn’t really have it in them.  \u200b\u200bIt’s a hard life no matter what you choose to do. \u200b For me, \u200bI don’t think I realized when I was younger, quite what it was going to take to do what I wanted to do. \u200b  I think it was a lot more than I thought, even though I \u200bdid think it was a lot. \u200b<\/p>\n

There’s an aspect of \u200byeah, we made it this far and it’s really great that we were able to do what \u200bwe’ve done, but I mean, for me, I don’t really get a lot of satisfaction out of that.  I’m sort of the type of person that is always looking to what we’re gonna do\u200b and not what we’ve already done. It just makes me happy to feel like, ‘Hey, we’re going to Europe with the Dropkick Murphys!’  That’s  what I’m looking forward to, what we’re doing next\u200b and touring outside the United States is something we’re sort of pushing now. \u200b<\/p>\n

\u200bFor the first time this year, we’re doing some Canadian festivals and some festivals in Europe and going on this tour with \u200bthe Dropkicks so I’m always looking forward and never looking back. \u200b I think in a way, it’s better to not think about what you want just to work really, really hard.<\/p>\n

KM: Right.  There’s always some peaks and valleys, right?  I mean, you guys work so hard, \u200band then you \u200bsacrifice all this stuff and you do all these things and then \u200byou put out an album and the album is regarded and played all over. \u200b Things get a little bit easier for a little while because everybody’s \u200briding on the success of the album. \u200b Then you’re going back into a valley where you have to start again and do more stuff and go again. \u200b The more fame and recognition you’re getting, \u200bthere are certain things that I’m sure get a little bit easier and get handed off to someone else, but then, \u200b you have a whole new set of stuff that you guys have to do to keep up with yourselves. <\/strong><\/p>\n

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PB: <\/strong>Yeah, \u200bin a way, it’s almost like creating a monster (laughs) and then you have to do it.  The truth is, most musicians\u200b, you choose it as a career, they’re going to do it anyway. \u200b It’s like \u200byou said, there are peaks and valleys and we go through periods where\u200b an album comes out and then time goes by and then people are like, “Oh you guys haven’t put out a record in a while.”  We put out records pretty slow and I’m going to make a really concerted effort to put out a new record sooner this time.  We just put out that record and then in April\u200b on 4\/20, we’re going to put out a live recording of us playing our last show at Red Rocks<\/strong>\u200b online and I’m going to work really hard after that to follow it up with another studio album. \u200b   We get \u200bso side tracked w\u200bith just our touring lif\u200be and then think\u200b we should put out a record but we have all these tours and like our year is booked up and we just don’t really get around to it. \u200b I mean, we’ve been on tour for 15 years and it’s just \u200bsort of what we do.  \u200b\u200b<\/p>\n

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KM:  You guys are on tour so much and in very close proximity to each other so you must have a very \u200brespectable, cohesive dynamic being together all the time.<\/strong><\/p>\n

PB: Yeah, \u200bwe’re  like a family at this point. I think any band that’s been together as long as we have, it’s like a family.  It can be a really dysfunctional family or it could be a a really good family, depending on the day (laughs)  I think the key is that you just you like love each other, even when you don’t like each other.  I think when you’re when you’ve been together as long as we have \u200bit’s difficult I mean, I think any band would tell you, it’s difficult, but at the same time, I spent pretty much my entire adult life on the road so sometimes it’s very difficult for me to not do it too, right?  That probably sounds weird to most normal people, but it’s my lifestyle\u200b.  If I’m home for like three or four months, I’m \u200bfeel like, ‘Okay, yeah, time to go.’<\/p>\n

KM: Talking about some of the new music again, I know that you also have \u200bsaid \u200b”Pray for Rain” is an ode to the state of the world today. \u200b \u200bBeing that it is such a tumultuous time and music is definitely therapeutic, musicians have always talked about the ‘state of affairs’ so to speak, right? So to what extent do you guys kind of feel that you’re doing that for the fan\u200bs and\/or for \u200byourselves?\u200b  What’s the what’s the motivation behind it? \u200b  Also the track “I’m a Terrible Man”, I don’t know if that rings true also to the me too movement of the world, but how much of that -\u200bbeing that you guys are going through the same thing that everyone else, in this country at least, is going through\u200b is for yourselves versus the fans?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u200bPB: <\/strong>I think my hope is that it’s always a therapeutic for me\u200b and then therefore, it will be for other people. \u200b Especially with \u200b”Terrible Man” there are people who are these huge public figures and role models\u200b \u200bor policy makers and you’ve got politicians or people that are supposed to be sort of our civic leaders, and \u200bunderneath it all, \u200bthey’re the worst people.  I guess everybody has to act like they’re not even though we all know now that they are.<\/p>\n

KM: It’s funny, to me that some people still act surprised by it (laughs).  \u200b<\/strong><\/p>\n

PB: <\/strong>Yeah, I mean look at the Catholic Church\u200b and everything that came out with that as well\u200b, just\u200b all these people that are sort of hiding in plain sight.  It’s so gross and I \u200bthink looking at it, you want to write about I want to write about it because it’s just a frustrating thing to watch happen. \u200b The hope is to\u200b inject a little bit of humor into it as well and hope people get a little bit of relief and enjoyment out of it.  The same thing with \u200b”Pray for Rain” in that consumerism is at an all time high current. <\/p>\n

KM: Ok, in an attempt to lighten the mood here, let’s do some rapid fire real quick. \u200bYou said you’re a big punk fan, what’s your favorite punk band?  <\/strong><\/p>\n

PB: <\/strong>\u200b That’s a really hard question to answer. \u200bI will say this, \u200bI do really like Social Distortion.<\/strong> It’s hard to say how you hear it but \u200bthere’s sort of like a country influence in Social Distortion, there’s a lot of Johnny Cash influence in there.  \u200bWe’re actually doing a tour with Social Distortion coming up so I’m really excited about that!  That’s a band that is still out there touring but when I was younger I liked a lot of almost unlistenable punk.  Have you ever heard of a band named Crass<\/strong>?<\/p>\n

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KM: No, but you know I’m from DC so we’ve got Bad Brains and that whole scene \u200bandoutside of that I don’t know much about punk music.<\/strong><\/p>\n

PB<\/strong>:\u200bI love Bad Brains<\/strong>!  \u200bI would put them in my favorite. I also really love Fugazi<\/strong>, Minor Threat<\/strong> and pretty much any punk band from D.C (laughs) \u200bGrowing up, \u200b\u200byou know, all the bands that we listened \u200bthat were punk were from D.C\u200b. and Boston and New York\u200b, that’s like the three cities where punk music came out of it. So yeah, you can pretty much go through any D.C. band.  <\/p>\n

KM: That’s great!  I know that you guys like to play small venues and you’ve you’ve mentioned that you guys like to play smaller venues that other other bands may not be interested in playing – what’s one of the small venues or even a city or town that’s become \u200ba place that you always will go back to and play again that you really liked and enjoyed. <\/strong><\/p>\n

PB: <\/strong>Well, one \u200bof my favorite places to play is New Orleans, of course. \u200b When we first started playing around\u200b there, we played a place called \u200bThe Dragons Den<\/strong>. \u200b It’s a tiny little bar on the second floor and that was \u200bgreat.   Our last big show there was at \u200bTapatios<\/strong>, which was really awesome.<\/p>\n

KM: I love that place! I was just in New Orleans actually and saw a show there. <\/strong><\/p>\n

PB:<\/strong> Me too! Yeah, it was great.  It was \u200bthe first time we’ve ever played there. \u200b<\/p>\n

Then there’s also the spots, like when we first played in Missoula, Montana, it was in a basement basically and now we play biggest place they have to play, you know.   We always made a point of \u200bthat we don’t care how small it is. Because we’re from \u200bsmall towns and those people want to be entertained just like everybody else.  We always made a point of stopping in some places that other bands just \u200bdrive by to get to the bigger cities and it’s really paid off\u200b.<\/p>\n

KM: Something you’re looking forward to for this year?<\/strong><\/p>\n

PB:<\/strong> \u200bThere’s a couple bands that we’re going to be touring with that I’m excited about \u200bin addition to the Social Distortion tour and then of course, we’re playing again at Red Rocks and definitely excited about that show. \u200b Then also, we’re playing\u200b Winnipeg Folk Festival and Calgary Folk Festival, we’re doing like three festivals in Canada in the summer, which we’ve never done before. \u200b And then the rest of it I can’t talk about (laughs).<\/p>\n

KM: That’s a lot of fun to look forward to this summer! \u200b<\/strong><\/p>\n

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